Ichneumons - ?

Ichneumons - ?

Observation - Ichneumons - ? - UK and Ireland. Description: Two different insects. First two pics are of #1, third two of #2. Both seen on same window at night. In both, body about 20mm long. Look similar but not quite the same - so not sure if same species or not.

Two different insects. First two pics are of #1, third two of #2. Both seen on same window at night. In both, body about 20mm long. Look similar but not quite the same - so not sure if same species or not.