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Fly for ID, please

Observed: 7th September 2013 By: ThistleThistle’s reputation in InvertebratesThistle’s reputation in InvertebratesThistle’s reputation in InvertebratesThistle’s reputation in Invertebrates
Fly for ID, please
Description:

A fly 6-8mm long photographed on a nettle leaf. I wish I knew enough to identify these even to genus level. Can anyone help, please?

Identifications
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    Likely ID
    Helena impuncta
    Confidence: It might be this.
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Comments

Steve_V's picture

Sympathies

Like you, I'd really like a way to get these things id'd, but alas there is no shortcut. If pushed, I would say this one is probably Muscidae, based on the venation (long veins not bent forward), but I could easily be wrong. No good field guide, many can only be split by the old microscope/scalpel trick and much scope for error. However, persistence can pay off and there are some really helpful guys on here. I would start by trying to get much better photos than this, and from several angles - the legs, antennae and abdomen markings are often important. There are some easier families where you can start, like the blowflies for example. Muscidae probably not the easiest.

Mydaea's picture

I think it is more likely to

I think it is more likely to be Anthomyiidae, which are even more difficult than Muscidae.

Mydaea's picture

I don't think this is Helina

I don't think this is Helina impuncta (i not e) or even a muscid, and in any case Helina can't be identified to species from pictures like this.