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October 2013022

Observed: 29th October 2013 By: Paul Williams
October 29 2013 Moth
October 2013022

Moth sitting on a hop leaf. I moved it onto a nearby paving slab to take a picture and realised how well it would have been camouflaged againgst the lichen on the slab.

Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Grey Shoulder-knot (Lithophane ornitopus) interacts


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Lithophane moth

Many thanks Nightfly,
I have just done a search and the image that came up for L ornitopus had a very slight light pink patch on the wing which another of my photos is showing. I dont know if thta is a further point of identification

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Hi Paul, I am still waiting

Hi Paul,

I am still waiting to see my first of this species but a fw have been posted on the site recently. Yes the kidney mark tends to contain a pinkish patch on this species. Another important feature is the black dashes extending from the shoulders. The time of year is important also, a very reduced variety of noctuids are on the wing at this stage of the year and there arent many species on the go at this time which are confusable with this one. Its a lovely fresh specimen.


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lithophane moth

Hello Cathal,

There were two of these moths sat amongst the pile of dead leaves at the foot of the hop plant. They were both unmoved by my moving them along with the leaf they were sitting on. Maybe a bit naively I thought all moths and butterlflies would be overwintering as pupae by now.(I know some butterflies overwinter but I imagine them to be snugged up somewhere safe by now) Would this moth be active during the winter? If so what would it eat?.
If it has yet to produce overwintering young what do the larvae eat?
Excuse the barrage of question.
Best wishes

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Lithophane moth and Comma butterflies

Earlier in the summer on this same hop plant there were many Comma caterpillers many of which eventaully pupated on the leaves . They had a startling markings of silvery gold on either side which looked like splashes of molten metal. Fabulous, but not what you would expect from a pupa that you would imagine was trying to be as inconspicuous as possible.