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Long winged conehead

Observed: 30th August 2013 By: christine970Schristine970S’s reputation in Invertebrateschristine970S’s reputation in Invertebrateschristine970S’s reputation in Invertebrateschristine970S’s reputation in Invertebrates
Long winged conehead?
Long winged conehead?
Description:

Extreme difficulty in chasing this down, loves to avoid eye contact, very fast. Long winged a guess. Best shots.

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dejayM's picture

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Steve - I know you watch comments. I am pretty confused about this. There are so many Other Obs, so few with agreements and even less with comments. What's the issue (apart from the name change)
The web is appalling regarding definitive descriptions - typically EoL (link above is supposed to be helpful!)
Can you point us to a decent Web description please?
This has a poor record in iSpot and your presence is some of the other Obs would go a long way towards shoring up the present decline (not just in insects of course)
See http://www.ispotnature.org/node/691186
ðJ

stevegregory's picture

Hi Derek

If you're referring to Conocephalus aka Coneheads (CH) there seem to be 2 main problems:
1) Immature specimens: people try to name immatures as though they were adults. Immatures don't have fully developed wings thus immature of both species tend to be identified on iSpot as 'short-winged CH' e.g. see http://www.ispotnature.org/node/723329 (which I consider an immature specimen).
2) Macropterous and Brachypterous forms. Short-winged CH has a long-winged form usually mis-id'd on iSpot as Long-winged CH.

Try www.orthoptera.org.uk - In the case of Coneheads : http://www.orthoptera.org.uk/species/account.aspx?ID=17 & http://www.orthoptera.org.uk/species/account.aspx?ID=18 At least this site highlights the potential id pitfalls.

ID of females is easier - based on shape of ovipositor - males need a good closeup shot of the claspers at the bum-end.

I'm afraid I don't have time to check all invert ids on iSpot, so I just stick to the groups I am most familiar with. And it's frustrating to see the same id mistakes being repeated over and over again - often by the same people.

(The over-riding problem with many iSpot invert ids is that people try to make their' beastie' fit an image in Chinery - which barely covers 10% of the Insects in Britain, and even fewer of the non-insect groups).

Best wishes

dejayM's picture

full

....of wisdom and understanding Steve, thanks.
I completely understand about time and energy, even inclination, to look at even more Posts.
But I see you get around nicely anyway.
I am frustrated by the site in general I suppose. We could certainly do with more input in Marines and Seaweeds!
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