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Its a little like a Dark Arches but its not that, its about 2/3 the size of a Dark Arches. Its a Brocade of somesort but I find these tricky!
Hi Nightfly, I thing we all find these noctuids with busy wing patters hard. Very hard to judge size from a photo as well, I'll stick with my Arches ID, but happy to be proved wrong.
No worries Ardea,
If I had put a ruler beside it it would have helped, Im fairly familiar with DA, this is a much smaller moorland species. Its about the size of a Hebrew Character. Sorry I didnt add a scale.
I have the moth and will add a pic with ruler now.....
Thanks for the help Ardea and DD, DD it was only when I looked at Small Clouded Brindle as you suggested that I noticed the similarity with the moth immediately to the left-ie the 2nd Dusky Brocade. Its quite like that.....
it does look good doesn't it, I'll be happy to agree once your photo gets a bit more interest. I had problems with a DB earlier in the month, it seemed a bit on the big side for DB. On the subject of size, it was drilled into us to be very wary of using size as a good character as poorly fed larvae with usually turn out to be smaller beasties, best as just a supporting character - but then you have to start somewhere!
DB does appear to be tricky (hoping this ID is now accurate....?), this is much more strongly marked than the other DBs I have posted on iSpot which I also hope are accurate. Its not so much its definitely it with me when it comes to DB but more it cant really be anything else sort of thing. Have to say though this does have many of the key features illustarted on the 2nd example in Waring, eg the black and pale thoracic trims/edges and nice dark markings in the right place on the wing.
Lat/Lng: 55.0112, -6.012
OS grid ref: NW435758