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Beautiful Demoiselle m + f

Observed: 12th June 2013 By: BruceHBruceH’s reputation in InvertebratesBruceH’s reputation in InvertebratesBruceH’s reputation in InvertebratesBruceH’s reputation in Invertebrates
Beautiful Demoiselle m + f
Beautiful......or not
Beautiful......or not 2
Description:

I saw this couple with one on the leaf overhanging a river, and the other flying round, and then swapping places.
2 more photos now added.

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RoyW's picture

Beautiful?

I'm not sure that I agree about the ID on this one Bruce - I think that the angle is making the anterior part of the wing on the male look more coloured than it actually is.

Did you take any more photos of these?

BruceH's picture

Maybe not so beautiful...?

I had a concern, Roy, when I saw that the wing in one of the shots was fairly clear, but assumed it to be a trick of the light. Now I am thinking that it wasn't...?

2 more shots are now attached. Do they help?

RoyW's picture

The open winged shot convinces me.

I think that the trick of the light is in the other shots - the ones where the wing appears fully coloured.
The veins in the wings are coloured, and from some angles this can occasionally give the impression that the clear areas in the wing are coloured.
Compare with these examples of male Banded Demoiselles on Ispot:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/271827
http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/268304
...and this mature male Western (or Yellow-tailed) Demoiselle:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/188712
None of these show the colour appearing as extensive as in your photos, but you probably get the idea!

Your photos, in my opinion, show Western Demoiselles, C. (splendens) xanthostoma, with the male being immature.
Beautiful Demoiselles would tend to have slightly broader wings, with the wing colour always darker (or browner) in males and usually browner/darker in females.

BruceH's picture

Very helpful

Thanks very much Roy, this is very helpful, and greatly appreciated.

jccurd's picture

OK you guys

Apologies for intruding but, if either or both of you get a chance, could you check this out, please:

http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/340919

I don't think I'm going mad ... just yet, anyway. ;-)

John

BruceH's picture

Page not found

Hi John,

I can't get the link to work - I always get "Page not found".
I am going away for 8 days from late this afternoon and shall be out of touch until I get back.
Bruce

jccurd's picture

Oo err

I 'll try to investigate ...

As you were - it rather looks as if that node (I cur and pasted the link so it should be accurate) has been deleted. I've searched the user's observations and can no longer find it myself.

No matter, keep snapping.

John