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Chitons

Observed: 10th June 2013 By: tommoses
Pembrokeshire Coast National Park
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chitons
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wildaboutnature's picture

I love finding chitons but

I love finding chitons but Tom and Chris, how can we be sure of the species from this pic? Are there any particular features that are obvious for L. cinerea?

Clare Flynn

wildaboutnature's picture

Discussions.....

Have a look here for some interesting discussions on chitons
http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/324284?nav=related

Clare Flynn

tommoses's picture

There we are - Camoflaged

There we are - Camoflaged chitons- must mean its impossible to identify any of them....

Discovery Ranger Tom
PCNPA

ChrisMcA's picture

Admittedly it's not clear

Admittedly it's not clear enough to distinguish to species by the pic as I see on magnification it's not quite in focus, but it looks just like (pattern on girdle, no bristles like Ac crinitas etc), & when you look at the date 10th of june isnt a very low tide, I think apart from this you'd be lucky to find even an Acanthochiton

tommoses's picture

Was in a mid-tide position,

Was in a mid-tide position, though under a submerged rock in a large permananet rockpool.

Discovery Ranger Tom
PCNPA

gramandy's picture

mid tide ....

....would almost certainly round the British coastline be Lepidochitona cinerea. The colours are amazing even an inch or so apart.

wildaboutnature's picture

Thanks Chris. I've always

Thanks Chris. I've always shied away from ID'ing chitons but may go back to the books and do some reading up!

Clare Flynn

tommoses's picture

better reference books I need!

Think I need some new literature (and not just for chitons!). Trawling through pics online is not very rigorous! What are the best reference books (is there a definitive 'pro' guide

Discovery Ranger Tom
PCNPA

dejayM's picture

links and books

That is a very good link that Gramandy has left for us.
Things are looking up with all these interchanges, maybe we can get closer to some consensuses (consensi?).
But I will say, that I have rarely found a picture or description that matches the one in my hand or, more appropriately, in my pictures.
The best illustrated literature is in the now quite rare book Collins' Pocket Guide SEA SHORE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Collins-Pocket-Guide-Britain-Europe/dp/0002199556
The book "...definitive pro guide") that is helping me the most, as I grope through my early experience, is the now expensive Hayward and Ryland 'Handbook'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handbook-Marine-Fauna-North-West-Europe/dp/01985...
Look for second user versions of each here
http://www.alibris.co.uk/
or here -
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/?cm_sp=TopNav-_-Results-_-Logo

ophrys's picture

consensi?

For what it's worth, consensi is not a possible plural for consensus. Consensuses is correct (if it needs pluralising).

Ian
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My Flickr photos...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52163027@N02/

ChrisMcA's picture

Might I also add the new "

Might I also add the new " RSPB handbook of the seashore " by Maya Plass, which I reckon would be specially good for eg Ispotters new to the seashore. Despite the title there are no birds (or mammals), & I found its 200 species very well chosen with typical examples of each; & all good clear photos, (the list of photographers has just about every uk seashore photographer on the net); & less than a 3rd the price of the other 2 on the net (at amazon/waterstones/WH Smith).

wildaboutnature's picture

Thanks all

Have highlighted this thread in the Invert forum for any other users who may be interested in these resources.

Clare Flynn