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Unknown Asteraceae April 14th

Observed: 14th April 2013 By: fransjemanfransjeman’s reputation in Plantsfransjeman’s reputation in Plantsfransjeman’s reputation in Plantsfransjeman’s reputation in Plants
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1300 m alt.

Species interactions

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Species with which Daisy (Bellis perennis) interacts


fransjeman's picture

Seen in grass in mountain at

Seen in grass in mountain at around 1000 m alt

The size was much bigger than normal B. perennis : around 4 cm diam. The height was little= about 7 cm. Numerous leaves , big size (on pictures)

dejayM's picture


Yes, bigger that I expected.
But B.perennis grows all 'round the World and at altitude - see here, for instance-
Portugal and Spain have a large number of 'wild' aster-type flowers including some hybrids.
But it is unlikely that you'll identify this one from a picture. One might have to tear it apart and study the bits through a good magnifier.
There are a good number of expert posters who should visit you here and I hope they do. I have only ever seen the ones that grow in my grass here - see
Yours is a fair lookalike.
ðj (Orkney)

lavateraguy's picture

Bellis sylvestris ...

... (southern daisy) is a possibility.

The composite volume of Flora Iberica isn't published, so I don't have an easy way of checking out related genera (e.g. Bellium, but there are 4 species of Bellis in Spain; one is a southern Spanish endemic, and I don't think that this is Bellis annua, which leaves Bellis perennis and Bellis sylvestris.

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Yes Lavateraguy a good summary (I'm glad you came!)
I remember B.sylvestris as being proportionately very tall.
See here Francois (picture only)
I have Davies and Gibbons ISBN 1852236590 which has good pictures and English text.
It used to be (when I was Alp travelling) a very good reference book for me.
Good wishes

fransjeman's picture

Thanks all. I am not

Thanks all. I am not convinced by perennis for the size of the flower and shape of leave (although not very good picture of base of leave), and I agree that sylvestis is normaly tall...

What about Aster bellidiastrum ?

lavateraguy's picture

The currently accepted name for ...

... Aster bellidastrum appears to be Bellidastrum michelii; it is the only species of that genus.

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For what it's worth ...

... I think we can exclude Bellium bellidioides on the grounds of its long petiolate leaves and relatively smaller involucre.