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Reed Bunting

Observed: 15th April 2013 By: gramandy
Kent Wildlife TrustThanet Coast ProjectWildwood Trust
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Reed Bunting
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Description:

This bird was on the dykes around the fields at the edge of the beach. I aam not sure of this one as I couldn't get a frontal pic. The dykes were filled with reeds and I could hear other birds amongst them. I have swayed towards female Reed Bunting, but don't have a problem being corrected.This bird new to me.

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gramandy's picture

I actually...

...meant Reed Bunting!?! - I can't believe I put Corn. If you read my spiel with the pics I actually mention female Reed Bunting and this was amongst reeds. All the ID details were for Reed Bunting as well. Sorry my mistake.

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Oops!

Add the ID again and I will happily agree...I had not read your notes, to be honest. It's an oddly marked bird, so not the easiest of identifications from behind!

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?Reed Bunting?

An interesting and potentially awkward one? This is a bunting species but I am not sure that it is a female reed bunting. The rump is decidedly chestnut in tone, more reminiscent of a yellowhammer - though the bird appears to show no yellow at all. It is certainly a first winter bird - based on the shape and wear pattern of the tail feathers. It is very difficult to make out any facial pattern from the first image (some dark feathering around the eye?) but I would dearly love to see a shot showing the head and under parts. The bird almost looks like a washed out yellowhammer - which is a slightly ‘scary’ prospect? Perhaps I am just barking up the wrong tree – a pine? Others’ thoughts would be welcomed. Perhaps I am just delusional?

Gramandy – I wonder, did you hear this bird call or see its face pattern at all well?

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every time...

...I moved around to get a better pic the bird also moved. Hence the back pics, the sun was presenting the light on its head and as always I could only get these 3 pics. I have played the RSPB call sounds and it maybe Reed (definitely not Yellowhammer as I know this call)? I didn't see any evidence of black moustache either but I guess if I'd got that I would have got a front view. Sorry I can't be of any more help.

Graham.

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Agreed

Agreed that it is an odd one. The bright light across the head does not help, either. It seems to show a pale greyish collar as some female/young male Reed do, and dark cheeks, like some do. I went for Reed on the balance of probability, but the pattern of the greater coverts also looks quite well defined. The first picture looks okay for Reed, to me...location fits for Reed, too. Happy for it to be corrected, but not sure what by...?

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while...

....chatting. There was also a warbler (well quite a lot) hiding amongst the reeds that kept darting out to grab flies from above the water and back again. I just wasn't quick enough to get pics - any thoughts what these might have been? So quick didn't really get to see colours but definitely warbler size.

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Warblers

Impossible to say! Chiffchaffs are quite likely, but by now Willow Warblers, Sedge Warblers and others will be returning to that location. I think you need to go back and get a bit more detail!

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will do....

...maybe a front view of this bird as well. I have had visits fron Chiffchaffs into the garden now. I'll pop back to this location and see what I can get.

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It would be great to get more photos......

If there is any chance of you refinding this bird and getting more photos it would be great to see them as there are a number of rarer species which this might have been - Pine Bunting has been mentioned, but there are a couple of other eastern possibilities which are not ruled out by these photos (Black-faced Bunting is a real possibility)

It may be worth sending these images to a specialist birdwebsite for additional views....but be ready for a twitch

All the best

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Went back today....

...caught some pics of what appear to be male Reed Buntings. Obviously not the same bird, so have posted separately, however, I do now think this may well be a female Reed. These guys were about 50 yards from this sighting. No other warblers were around today, a grey day, windy and no insects around (except for some rather large queen bumblebees looking for nest sites). Will keep a lookout in this area for a few days though. Couple of rabbits and a Stoat were also around (too quick for pics).