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Pine sp

Observed: 5th April 2013 By: IWoodwardIWoodward’s reputation in PlantsIWoodward’s reputation in PlantsIWoodward’s reputation in PlantsIWoodward’s reputation in Plants
Pinus sp
Chingford Hawkwood Pinus sp 2013-04-05 (1)
Chingford Hawk Wood Pinus sp close-ups 2013-04-07 (3)
Chingford Hawk Wood Pinus sp close-ups 2013-04-07 (4)
Chingford Hawk Wood Pinus sp close-ups 2013-04-07 (5)
Description:

almost certainly planted - in area with Rhododendron and a Larch believed to have been part of a garden of a large house in the past.

Identifications
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    Likely ID
    Pine (Pinus)
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Pine (Pinus) interacts

Comments

Rachy Ramone's picture

Deafeningly a pine!

But which one... I would say, looking at the buds, neither Maritime (P. pinaster) nor Stone (P. pinea) as both have buds with pointed tips and reflexed bud scales. And yes, they are both similar to each other.

(btw, it does take a bit of practice to get the focus right on the hand-lens: stick with it!)

Rachy Ramone

How to take close-ups with cheap phone and hand-lens:
http://tree-and-shrub-id.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-close-ups.html
Field Guides for Budding Botanists:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B01A8YB0WY

IWoodward's picture

Reflexed buds

Thanks Rachy.

Difficult to see from the photos, but many of the bud scales are reflexed, which is why I went towards Maritime or Stone Pine. I have to admit they aren't particularly pointed and that they look nothing like the picture of Stone Pine buds that you posted today!

It will have to stay as Pinus sp for the time being, though there is a London Natural History society field meeting in this area in August so maybe we'll be able to take a look then and put a name to it (and maybe find some cones).

Ian

Rachy Ramone's picture

OK, we'll have to wait...

Since starting to study conifers this winter, I have been amazed at the unusual species found in ordinary suburban front gardens, let alone planted in former "proper" gardens.

So it could be something quite unusual.

Hope you find some cones, I look forward to another observation later in the year.

Rachy Ramone

How to take close-ups with cheap phone and hand-lens:
http://tree-and-shrub-id.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-close-ups.html
Field Guides for Budding Botanists:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B01A8YB0WY