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Black foliose lichen

Observed: 2nd April 2013 By: pf339
S159 Neighbourhood Nature - course complete
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Black foliose lichen i
Black foliose lichen ii
Description:

Black foliose lichen patches, looks as if remaining from large rosettes, growing on vertical limestone face. Lobes thin and ragged in places. Some isidia on lobes - visible in right hand picture (close up of part of lower patches in left hand picture). Possibly Collema cristatum.

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Comments

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Identification

Thanks for help with identification of this Collema sp.
Phil

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Alternative ID

Collema spp. vary horrendously in their appearance and my understanding of them is still at an early stage, but I think this is C. fuscovirens. The lobes are more rounded than I have seen in C. cristatum (described as having "dentate or small-lobulate, sinuose margins) and I find the presence of isidia a bit offputting, despite accounts that C. cristatum sometimes has a few (putting aside var. marginale, which is described as often having isidia - not surprisingly, at the margins).

I think your photos are comparable to these from the British Lichens site:

Collema fuscovirens
Close up

Evidence of a pustulate lobe surface should confirm C. fuscovirens.

My encounters with what I am calling C. cristatum have mostly been in the same area (Malham, Clapham, Stainforth etc) and I have noticed a big difference between fertile and infertile forms. I suspect some of the latter are var. marginale, but this needs confirming.

Nigel

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Collema spp.

Thanks for helpful information. "Evidence of a pustulate lobe surface.." has made me look through rest of images more carefully and there may be a more convincing possibility. Images are of a different thallus so I shall post the images separately as possibly Collema fuscovirens.
Many thanks
Phil