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Scots pine

Observed: 18th February 2013 By: scubamannscubamann’s reputation in Plantsscubamann’s reputation in Plantsscubamann’s reputation in Plants
Scots pine maybe
pine trunk
bark and cones
pine leaves
Description:

A tall pine but with limited lower branches.
A trunk (sorry the photos is at right angles to the sun) with peeling irregular plates; silvery/brown/red. Some laying on the ground.
I could not get a close up of the leaves - too far overhead.
Egg-shaped cones found on the ground.

Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Scots Pine (Pinus sylvestris) interacts

Comments

Tim Rich's picture

the crown shape is not right

the crown shape is not right for sylvestris and the bark is not orangey at the top

Tim Rich

Rachy Ramone's picture

A view of the needles...

... would definitely help: although the branches are clearly way, way out of reach, you can usually find dead needles at the foot of the tree.

Their length is indicative, as is their cross-section, and indeed the number of needles in each bunch or unit.

If it's possible for you to go back and have a grovel in the grass??

Rachy Ramone

How to take close-ups with cheap phone and hand-lens:
http://tree-and-shrub-id.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-close-ups.html
Field Guides for Budding Botanists:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B01A8YB0WY

scubamann's picture

ID

Thanks for comments and sorry about the delay to reply.
I have been back and edited the post to include a better photo of the trunk texture/colour, and also rescued some cones and part of the "discarded" bark (which seems to be red-ish).
I had thought this was a natural growth but found lower limbs had been cut off (presumably to aid golfers as it is at the edge of the rough/fairway). But I am still intrigued by the non-linear central trunk.
I tried groping amongst the rough grass even using a stick to shake it about, but could not find any needles. Tried to photograph up to the branches but the wind was blowing and my DT's make photos difficult especially with a compact camera on extra long.
Perhaps the previous "trimming" explains the shape of the crown?
It is the only fir tree I know that does not have a singular trunk; but I am happy to be corrected

lavateraguy's picture

Some forms of ...

... Pinus nigra can be multi-trunked. Several other conifers also don't have the traditional conical shape, including mature Cedrus and Pinus radiata.

As for this plant, I would have passed off the crown shape as consistent with Pinus sylvestris, but it doesn't show the distinctive reddish tinge of that species. On the other hand it doesn't look dark enough for Pinus nigra.

Ambroise's picture

I think we all agree it is

I think we all agree it is not very likely to be P. sylvestris and that it is a bit to hastly to call it P. nigra. P. nigra seems more likely to me though - hence the "It's likely to be this, but I can't be certain". Maybe Pinus sp. is the best we can do without additional information.

scubamann's picture

I go with that.

I go with that.