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Black-necked Grebe

Observed: 29th January 2013 By: gramandy
Kent Wildlife TrustThanet Coast ProjectWildwood Trust
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Black-necked Grebe
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Description:

New to me - kept diving making pics difficult. Had a plaintiff cry as if to say I'm lost and shouldn't be here (help me). Hope it finds where it wants to go.

Identifications
Species interactions

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Comments

gramandy's picture

bill not...

...uptilted and clear black cap - strongly suggests Slavonian :)

Mydaea's picture

Black below eye, greyish

Black below eye, greyish behind eye, high crown, and the tip-tilted bill (which seems clear enough to me) strongly suggest black-necked.

David Jardine's picture

More Photos?

This is a difficult one and it would be great to see any more photos you have of this individual. I am more inclined to think Black-necked (on jizz - it looks short and dumpy compared with the Slavs I am accustomed to seeing offshore), but any more photos could help.

gramandy's picture

Hi David...

....have added 3 more pics - I have also been listening to CDs of the calls (as mentioned in description) of the 2 birds and they are not very similar. Was in my book a Slav not black-necked. The size however as can be judged pic 5 against BHG suggests smaller than Slav (youngster?). Only 130 black-necked seen in UK over winter according to RSPB - I wouldn't be that lucky. I'm still going with it's call.

David Jardine's picture

Black-necked?

Apologies for the delay in responding on this one: thanks for these extra photos - please look at this post:

http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/313242?nav=related

which shows a winter plumaged Slavonian Grebe. Note the clean edge to the cap behind the eye, which is different to the 'smudge' on your bird. Also note its small size - young Slavonian grebes will be the same size as adults by early autumn. The peaked head in your bird, rather than the 'flatter' head seen in Slavonian Grebe also points, in my opinion to Black-necked Grebe.

All the best

Mydaea's picture

Maybe I am vindicated! See

Maybe I am vindicated! See also http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/314515 which are clearly black-necked also.

gramandy's picture

thanks for...

....putting me right - appreciate it. Was obviously tough as other people obviously thought this to be Slav as well.

gramandy's picture

ok....

....going with your thoughts - you guys have convinced me. Thanks for all your input.