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Observed: 23rd October 2012 By: EdwardAtkinsonEdwardAtkinson’s reputation in BirdsEdwardAtkinson’s reputation in BirdsEdwardAtkinson’s reputation in BirdsEdwardAtkinson’s reputation in Birds
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Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Carrion Crow (Corvus corone) interacts

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ophrys's picture

Buzzard?

Any other pics? Something about the proportions doesn't look quite right to me...

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Aláine's picture

certainly not a corvid with a

certainly not a corvid with a beak like that, definately a raptor difficult to say without the plumage in view but looks a lot like a common buzzard.

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Mydaea's picture

It is a corvid, probably a

It is a corvid, probably a carrion crow, not a buzzard.

ophrys's picture

Crow

Certainly closer to Carrion Crow than to Buzzard, I would say...The bill is pointing down and so looks short and for that reason, I have agreed with Crow.

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mattprince1969's picture

Another major difference between the two...

Another major difference between the two is the ratio of the length of the arm to the hand. Corvids have a short arm, in comparison to the arm. Buzzards have about equal length arm/hand.

The bird in picture has a short arm and a long hand - its a corvid.

CVF this flicker picture, ignore the shape of the wing, the buzzard has its fingers closed, but instead concentrate on where the alula would be, the bend in the wing. In the buzzard the elbow is about half way along, in the crow it is closer to 1/3.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68075853@N04/6210576011/
(from G.thornton flicker stream)

Hope that helps explain my id.

Regards,
Matt

ophrys's picture

Corvid

Like ahb, I am not convinced Rook can be discounted. The prominent fingers do look more Rooky, to me. Looking at the Rooks flying over the house, this morning, tail shape was quite variable and some had quite squared-off tails.

One of those where I don't think we shall ever know for sure...

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