ajmckellar's picture

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Observed: 13th December 2012 By: ajmckellar
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Description:
Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Wild Privet (Ligustrum vulgare) interacts

Comments

Rachy Ramone's picture

Neither of the above!

It's not Alder Buckthorn, as that has leaves arranged alternately, and these are clearly in opposite pairs.

It's also not Blackthorn, due to the slight absence of thorns... and the lack of "bloom" on the berries, which are too round (sloes are more oval)and the leaves are too wide.

I did wonder about Buckthorn (Rhamnus cathartica) but I would expect the leaves to be toothed, and less "fleshy" looking. I can't see the venation (vein pattern) clearly in these photos.

I shall wait for an ID with interest!

Rachy Ramone

How to take close-ups with cheap phone and hand-lens:
http://tree-and-shrub-id.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-close-ups.html
Field Guides for Budding Botanists:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B01A8YB0WY

wildaboutnature's picture

Wild privet?

I notice that two IDs were made originally. The first one being Wild privet (Ligustrum vulgare). The berries look very close to privet and leaves in opposite pairs. leaves look correct size and shape and twigs very privet like. What do you think Rachy?

ajmckellar - if you make one ID at a time, it allows for agreements to be made more easily.I hope we get a result for you!

Clare Flynn

Rachy Ramone's picture

Wild Privet (Ligustrum vulgare)...

...looks like a much better bet, although I would have expected the leaves to be a little more pointed.

I really don't enjoy ID from photos - I'm not very good at it! You get so much more information when you can handle the specimen...

Clare, thank you for clearing up one thing that confused me - I didn't realise that Andrew was giving up two options in the ID. I thought he thought that Wild Privet WAS Alder Buckthorn! Sorry Andrew, I didn't spot what you were doing, and as Clare says above, it's best to only put one ID up in the ID box.

If you don't know which it is, I'd suggest that you just say in your description what you think the options are, and wait for either some comments to clarify it, or for someone else to put up a suggested ID.

I suppose - thinking about it - you could put up two IDs, one for each, and see which one gets the most "votes", as it were: I'm not at all sure what the iSpot etiquette is on that point. Anyone know?!

Rachy Ramone

How to take close-ups with cheap phone and hand-lens:
http://tree-and-shrub-id.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-close-ups.html
Field Guides for Budding Botanists:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B01A8YB0WY

wildaboutnature's picture

Wild privet?

I notice that two IDs were made originally. The first one being Wild privet (Ligustrum vulgare). The berries look very close to privet and leaves in opposite pairs. leaves look correct size and shape and twigs very privet like. What do you think Rachy?

ajmckellar - if you make one ID at a time, it allows for agreements to be made more easily.I hope we get a result for you!

Clare Flynn

lavateraguy's picture

Scale?

How big are the fruits?