green with red crown and nape
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I'm hard pushed to see any green on the bird. If it wasn't for the time of year I would have mistaken it for a juvenile greater spotted woody.
I must buy myself a new pair of monitors for Christmas.
Some juvenile Great Spotted Woodpeckers retain the red on the crown into the winter. Continental birds which make their way here for the winter keep the red longer than our own birds, I believe. Either way, this is a Great Spotted, definitely!
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I think that my posting and your ID must have overlapped. Had I seen your ID, I would have just ticked "I agree".
I always enjoy your posts and, as a beginner, I find them very informative.
If you both look at the first picture the bird is green and pale yellowish green below, red crown and nape. For a great spotted woodpecker,upperparts are glossy black, with white on the sides of the face and neck, and undertail coverts crimson. Which you can't see in the first picture. I understand the pictures were taken from a distance and not easy to identify but look for the tail area, you would see yellowish green.
But surely the back is black? And the cheek is white with a black bar and then a white triangle on the side of the nape.
Or am I interpreting what I see wrongly? I am colour-blind to green, so it is possible, but it looks like a Great Spotted to me.
Seven people seems pretty convincing, but... How do you explain a head pattern which Green does not show?
I will have to confess that it looked green at first glance and it still does; however Ophrys raises a good point that clearly I and others missed, the triangle on the side of the nape would suggest GSW.
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I am certainly way out of my depth here. However, not being afraid to be wrong is my way of learning.
I know that cameras and processing of images are far from being perfect. Looking at the enlarged photo, it does seem have a greenish cast which is especially evident in the far distant detail. This could account for the greenness of the bird.
It is true the white on the bird does have a green cast (not sure why but suspect white balance) but it is only a hint of green; P. viridis is very green, there would be no debate if it were GW.
In the second picture the bird is in profile with its head pointing away from us (to its right and looking up) exposing the red crown. The back can very clearly be seen to be black and the white shoulder blaze is very visible indeed, again with just a hint of colour cast.
Thanks guys, having an interesting debate here. The true is I spotted this green woodpecker flying from the open and landed on this tree. The weather condition was good. Only managed to take these two snaps before it disappeared into a thick bush. But if you can look at the second picture, you could clearly see its yellowish green underparts, in which a great spotted woodpecker has a red undertail coverts.
I think you ought to base the identification on the markings visible on the head, rather than perceived colour on the underparts (which are hard to judge). Might it have rubbed against very green algae and so assumed the greenish tone? Look at that head pattern against pictures of a Green and pictures of a Great Spotted and see what you think.
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On second reading it seemed a little harsh.
This post exemplifies the difficulties of sometimes trying to identify birds purely from photographs.
If you heard it call then you may have easily distinguished between the species - Great Spotteds usually give a loud 'tuck' call while Green Woodpeckers usually have a yaffling laughing call.
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I had a debate with my circle of friends on the same two pictures, some did raise the same point regarding the identity of this GW. I thought it might be interesting to seek a wider opinion on these tricky pictures. Thanks everybody for all the troubles once again.
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