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Plantation trees

Observed: 25th November 2012 By: craighastencraighasten’s reputation in Plantscraighasten’s reputation in Plants
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Description:

I'd be interested to know what type of trees these are. I know nothing about trees, but I think they ae some sort (sorts?) of conifer. its a small, derelict, former Forestry Commission experimental plantation. Damp and overgrown

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Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Spruce (Picea) interacts

Comments

Thistle's picture

Needles

look to be singles so spruce. (spruce - singles; pine - pairs; larch - lots.) Not sure which spruce, though.

cabbageleek's picture

Two things

The cones are from a pine and the needles are from a Spruce

Rachy Ramone's picture

Singles is not just Spruce...

Singles could be Spruce, but could also be Fir, or Yew, or even Sequoia.

Also, if I'm being picky, Pine comes in 2s,3s, and 5s. Not just in pairs.

The pic with the leaves shows dead Pine needles in pairs, caught on the branches, and they don't appear to be more than 4" long (hard to tell from photo, with no scale reference) so I'd say there are Scots Pine in the area!

Rachy Ramone

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lavateraguy's picture

I was thinking ...

... that the foliage looked like Picea, or possibly Abies, but that the cones weren't Picea, and that the habit of the trees looked like a straggly Pinus sylvestris.

So in the light of the various comments, I suggest that the plantation is of Pinus sylvestris, or possibly Pinus contorta, and a Picea abies (the needles look too short for Picea sitchensis) from somewhere else has seeded in.

cabbageleek's picture

I agree, though I think Pinus

I agree, though I think Pinus contorta is most likely. It has persisent, lopsided cones like these.

Thistle's picture

Agreed

but it's a useful starting point and easily memorised.

lavateraguy's picture

needles borne singly ...

... is likely the plesiomorphous state in conifers. Derived states include small clusters of 2, 3 or 5 in Pinus (with Pinus monophylla as a trap for the unwary), larger clusters in Larix and Cedrus, whorls in Sciadopitys, and scale leaves in the adult foliage of Cupressaceae.