spotted cat's picture

Hidden comments

Would it be possible to have some kind of flag near the top of each observation page to highlight the fact that comments have been added below? Since these comments are not visible, it is easy to miss them. I try to keep an eye on the length of the scroll bar slider to get an idea of the amount of text on each page, but it's not infallible.

The comments are often the most interesting part of the observation, since they may give a lot of additional information which is helpful to those of us who want to learn. Sometimes they are just very entertaining!

Maybe a line showing the 'number of comments posted for this observation' might be added?

Marianne

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Masked Marvel's picture

Good Idea

I think this would be a good idea, the comments are frequently missed.

Matt Smith's picture

Comments

This subject has come up before for the same reasons - I'd like to see comments, or at least a "new comment" flag be placed on the underused right side of the screen so they are visible without having to scroll down the page.

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Ray Turner's picture

Unread

I think I’m fairly unique because I go into an observation via ‘Unread’ in ‘My Spot’ rather than via the carousel. One advantage of this is the list displays not only how many comments there are but how many are new since you last looked.

I often use this as a sort of filter, selecting the ones with lots of comments first. Then the observation has generated some interest or there is a bit of banter going on, either way they will be worth looking at.

Ray

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Matt Smith's picture

Comments

Surely that way you miss a lot of observations with no comments that may just be waiting for you to put an ID on?.

I find the Carousel a bit limiting as it will only show you a certain number of the most recent observations, if you only rely on that then you miss some when post numbers are high. I tend to go in via the "Observation" tab but with filters applied so I usually only look at a couple of the group categories.

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Ray Turner's picture

The unread tab...

... shows all observations (subject to group filtration) that you have not looked at before, so those that have no id as well. It also shows any observations that have had stuff added since you last looked at them, such as comments. So it’s a great place to come in from; I generally start by having a look to see if any have comments and look at any of those that may be interesting first, then I’ll run down the titles looking for anything that catches the eye and after that I’ll glance at whatever is left.

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spotted cat's picture

Unread tab

I also use the unread tab, but it's a fiddle to have to go back to the list between every observation to see if there are any comments. To save time, once I have opened one observation, I then click on 'next' rather than go back to the unread list. It would be more 'user-friendly' to have a comments marker near the top of each observation.

Peachysteve's picture

Comment Flag

I'd like to come at this from a slightly different angle.
I'm here to learn. Sometimes I'll create a post and put an ID which I've tried, to the best of my ability, to get correct. Someone adds a revised ID which is great, it's an opportunity for me to find out what I don't know and learn some more. I hope to get some help through the comments so I ask some questions about how to differentiate between the two IDs. Sometimes I get a response from the person who gave the ID and sometimes I don't. I'd be happy to get that input for any member who can advise me. I think the reason I don't get the response is that other people don't see the comments section.
I think it would be helpful if there were some comments flag visible at the top of the page so that everybody would realise and not just those who check through the unread tab.

Rachy Ramone's picture

Absolutely.

You have put your finger on it, a lot of users don't seem to know about or bother about using the filters in their MySpot to keep tabs on their own observations, or Obs to which they have added a comment.

I find it quite maddening to ask a question, and never get a response. (I get a little "vexed", in fact, ha ha)

It's been debated within the forums quite a lot, as to whether non-responders don't care, or really don't know about the facility.

Now I've been here a while, my routine is to sign in, check MySpot "changes", then go to the Forums for any new ones, then I go to Observations and filter to just Plants, as that is my sphere of expertise.

I don't think I ever use the carousel, or the "next" facility - it's too frustrating having to scroll down to see if there are any comments.

So yes, I would very much like to see comments being given much more importance in presentation.

Rachy Ramone

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Ray Turner's picture

Filters

I think you make a good point about the filters Rachey, they are a bit tucked way and could do with better signposting in my opinion.

Ray

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Rachy Ramone's picture

Aha...

... are we heading back to "there should be an introductory email to new iSpotters", do we think?

*laughs*

One day I must check that video on "how to make a new observation" and see what it actually contains... and what it omits.

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dejayM's picture

Flag again

It's time this suggestion was reviewed, at least discussed, again.
It is increasingly obvious that few people, when placing agreements or proposing IDs, are reading comments.
There is enough proof evident to close watchers that I needn't isolate any examples.
The suggestion is -
a Comments Present flag should be made visible near the top of all posts which have a comment. This is particularly important (I believe) for posts without an ID.
Now, I realise that the flag actually exists in a number of views - like >>This One<< but does not appear in individual postings.
ðj

Peachysteve's picture

I second that

I second that

lavateraguy's picture

Copied over from the General Discussion forum

A line "<n> comments" after the "observed by" line would meet the need for an indication that there are comments buried down at the bottom of an observation.