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Scottish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus scoticus) female -hind

Observed: 16th July 2011 By: georgi1313
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Scottish Red Deer(Cervus elaphus scoticus) female -hind
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Scottish Red Deer(Cervus elaphus scoticus) female -hind 3
Description:

Scottish Red Deer(Cervus elaphus scoticus.
This deer thrives in the Highlands and Islands of Scotland and in parts of England such as Westmorland, Devon, Somerset and the New Forest. It is also found in County Kerry and Donegal in Ireland. However, most of the red deer kept in parks in the British Isles are derived from the larger subspecies brought from the European mainland, the Western European red deer (Cervus elaphus elaphus

Identifications
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    Likely ID
    Scottish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus scoticus)
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Comments

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Scottish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus scoticus)

Scottish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus scoticus)

Gill Sinclair's picture

Confused about ID characteristics

I don't doubt that this is a red deer, but I'm confused!
This is the second time a photo of a red deer has been posted where there is a distinct black dorsal stripe that runs all the way from the ears to the end of the tail, but if you look on e.g. Arkive http://www.arkive.org/red-deer/cervus-elaphus/ most if not all of the deer in the images lack this dorsal stripe.
Also other ID info. that I've read says "Red deer have a heart-shaped white patch on the rump... [and] the tail... will be the same colour as the rest of the body" (distinguishing them from the sika deer which has a white tail).
Is this just a different variety of red deer with the dorsal stripe, or is it a sign of hybridisation with a sika?

By the way gg999 (sorry, I can't see your name on your profile!), your photos are good, high resolution images, so you might want to crop them to 'zoom in' on the animal before you upload them - I have broadband but it's not great and it took quite a little while for each of the images to open, I would guess longer for people who are still on dial-up:-)

Gill Sinclair
OU Certificate in Contemporary Science
www.gillsinclair.net
Twitter @Gill_Sinclair

georgi1313's picture

Cervus elaphus scoticus hybridisation

Hi Gill, thanks for your post.

There seems to be some form of hybridisation present as the dorsal black/dark brown stripe is more common to be seen present on the sika deer (Cervus nippon) and even the Fallow deer (Dama dama dama). Both latter breeds have been seen on Scotland with the sika deer being more in abundance.

My confusion is as there is no mayor spots present (perhaps some very faint dark grey along the dorsal line if my eye dont trick me) and although the rump is not completely white as reed deer would have, it does not have either the full black horshoe shape line as sika deer tend to have.

Pitty it wasn't a male as the antlers of sika deer differ in shape from those of red deer (Cervus elaphus) in that the front spikes point forwards rather than towards each other.

BDW nice website and nice fotos,

Georgina

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Deer expert opinion needed!

OK Georgina - we'll have to see what some of the deer experts say. The face looks more like red/sika but I'm not great on British deer - we only see roe around here (which are lovely).
Thanks for the comment about the website/photos.
Gill

Gill Sinclair
OU Certificate in Contemporary Science
www.gillsinclair.net
Twitter @Gill_Sinclair