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Nettle-leaved Bellflower

Observed: 2nd September 2012 By: Pam Burrow
S159 Neighbourhood Nature - course complete
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Nettle-leaved Bellflower (Wahlenbergia hederacea)
Nettle-leaved Bellflower
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ABK's picture

The scientific and common

The scientific and common names do not appear to match. It does not appear to be either of these species but is I think some kind of bellflower.

cicuta58's picture

Wahlenbergia

Wahlenbergia hederacea is Ivy-leaved Bellflower. It would be usueful to remove its link to Nettle-leaved Bellflower or iSpot will use it again if it can.

cicuta58

Pam Burrow's picture

Hi Circuta - Thanks for your

Hi Circuta -
Thanks for your advice. I'm not sure whether my simply clicking on the 'I agree' button for the revised id of Campanula portenschlagiana will do what I neeed to do, however. Will it? Or do I need to change it via 'Edit'?
Thanks for your help.
Pam

cicuta58's picture

Change

It needs changing in the original ID, but I don't know if that is possible. Suggest consulting the creators!

cicuta58

Martin Harvey's picture

species name links

The way the links between English names and scientific ones work on iSpot is intended to be helpful, but it can take a bit of getting used to! Sorry for any confusion caused.

If you type in either an English name OR a scientific as an identification on iSpot, it is best to then click on the "Get recommended" button. iSpot will then attempt to fill in whichever name you didn't add - for example, if you type in "Nettle-leaved Bellflower" and then click "Get recommended", iSpot will fill in the scientific name as "Campanula trachelium", which is correct as far as I am aware.

I think what must have happened with the original identification here is that both the English name and the scientific name were typed in by hand, rather than using the "Get recommended" button. However, this does not cause any wider problems, and iSpot does not 'remember' such links - all iSpot can do is use the links that are already in the species dictionary (we use a version of the National Biodiversity Network species dictionary, as maintained by the Natural History Museum).

So no further action is required here - an initial ID was suggested but has been corrected by others, which is exactly how iSpot should work!

It's not possible to edit or remove an existing ID: on iSpot we are interested in demonstrating the process of identification, so that once you have added an identification you can't delete it, only add a revision. This shows how an identification has been arrived at, and also prevents the problem of someone clicking on "I agree" for a particular identification, and the identification then being changed.

What you can change is which identifications you've agreed with - if you click on "I agree" for an identification, and then a another identification is added and you realise the second one is more accurate, you can "Remove your agreement" from the first identification and click on "I agree" for the second one.

That all sounds rather complex when written down, but once you've used the site a few times hopefully it makes sense! Thanks for raising the issue so it can be clarified.

There's a bit more info on how the identification process is intended to work at:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/help-etiquette

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Entomologist and biological recorder

Pam Burrow's picture

Thanks for this

Thanks for this clarification, Martin. The error was entirely mine - I was probably interrupted whilst I was making the entry and chose the wrong name from my reference book!
I'm glad that the error doesn't cause any major problems.
Thanks again for your help
Pam