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Dab

Observed: 31st August 2012 By: nightflynightfly is knowledgeable about Fishnightfly’s earned reputation in Fishnightfly’s earned reputation in Fishnightfly’s earned reputation in Fish
31 AUG 12 (64)
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nightfly's picture

Thanks for the agreement

Thanks for the agreement Chris McA. This one too needs switched agreements. Again, my semi- correct ID at the top has been misleading.

Thanks,

Cathal.

dejayM's picture

Hard to tell

I'm not certain why this has a split vote (agreements) though one agreer has accepted both as correct - they are after all different fish..
Reversing your method and placing Hippoglossoides platessoides in the Scientific name then clicking Get Recommended gets Long Rough Dab sometimes known as the American plaice (it seems)
As you suggest, NBN has no sightings of Hippoglossoides platessoides in your area. But GBIF has it in the Irish Sea to Stranraer but with a couple of northerly sightings up to Arran.
Researching the differences, it appears, if it is a Dab (I'm nearly certain it is), that the correct one is likely to be Limanda limanda but it's hard to tell from the picture, which is nevertheless excellent.
Common Dab http://britishseafishing.co.uk/dab/
Common Dab http://www.marlin.ac.uk/speciesinformation.php?speciesID=3675 MarLIN cleverly avoids the Long Rough Dab!
Long Rough Dab then -
A picture and a good illustration here http://fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.php?StartRow=0&ID=4239&what=s...
More - http://britishseafishing.co.uk/long-rough-dab/
I think this might be up for grabs (agreement-wise) so have you done any more research? And can either the Chris's give their evidence please?
Might you add the Tag Marine, it's not just Coastal? As you know Marine gets a few more views (precious few!).
ðJ

nightfly's picture

Hi Derek, If you look at the

Hi Derek,

If you look at the lateral line on the Long Rough Dab in your link, you will see how it contrasts with that on my fish above. The line on my fish shows the typical, diagnostic shape for Limanda limanda.

Im pretty sure the agreements above on Hippoglossoides platessoides are just lingering there since my regrettable use of Get Recommended in the beginning. The common name was correct and invited agreements but the inserted binomial was way off.

Cathal.

chrisbrooks's picture

Dab

Hi all, I will have to admit that my initial agreement was with the common name "DAB", wrongly assuming that "get recommended" had provided the correct Latin name. I can see now that the Latin name was wrong (not overly familiar with all Latin names but trying hard). I would agree with Cathal that the lateral line suggests "Dab" and not the "Long Rough Dab" which I have never heard of until now. Regards Chris.

ChrisMcA's picture

Yes indeed, as cathal

Yes indeed, as Cathal says, your links show it, & it was just a perverse oddity that Ispot's recommended name was then the exceedingly rare (in UK) rough dab, as I commented in http://www.ispotnature.org/node/283477 , http://www.ispotnature.org/node/283477#comment-360514 ,& which still needs further agreement

dejayM's picture

So nice!

Oh it is SO nice dealing with people who read their Changes, respond eagerly and educate me.
ðJ