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_MG_2804 spotty deer

Observed: 26th July 2012 By: miked
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Description:

some spotty deer with red deer in background for scale. have managed to get most id features of tail, back and antlers but not sure which ones they are as i suspect these are not the ones that woburn had a number of years ago.

Identifications
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    Likely ID
    Cervus nippon mantchuricus
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
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    • the naturalist man
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Comments

the naturalist man's picture

Sika deer

Funny spotted deer again!

http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/2551

These look to be the same Manchurian sika deer as in the above observation, refer back to the photos. What was it that made you think they were different?

'...Woburn had a number of years ago...' I was amazed Mike when I noticed your original observation was posted three years ago, it doesn't feel like three years - how time flies!

Graham Banwell

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Actually I had forgotten this

Actually I had forgotten this earlier observation. Indeed how time flies. The other species i was referring to was barasingha (Rucervus duvaucelii) which I am not sure whether I've seen or not.

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Barasingha deer

I did not realise Woburn had barasingha swamp deer, they are so rare. In fact I didn't know there were any in the UK at all.

Barasingha are spotless with the males having very large sets of antlers and shaggy fur all over, especially around the neck giving the look of a mane. The females have smooth looking fur of a rich yellow/chestnut colour. Both sexes have a whitish throat and a black tip to the muzzle similar to the roe deer. They are about the size of red deer.

I looked up barasingha on the Woburn web site and it says they are in an area closed to the public which would perhaps explain why you think you have not seen them.

You could always try saying you want to photograph them for iSpot it may open some doors! However, it would then raise the tricky issue of are they wild? Presumably if they are in an area closed to the public they are fenced in.

If you want to put these up as red dder and Manchurian sika deer I'll agree to the id.

Graham Banwell

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I just typed in Manchurian

I just typed in Manchurian into the common name box and the only thing it came back with was Manchurian Wildrice, which I suspect these are not.

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Sika

I wouldn't be surprised them not having Manchurian as they are a race not a species. I suppose we aught to add an observation for red deer for completeness sake.

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