honigkuchen's picture

Something nasty in the wood shed :)

Observed: 16th September 2009 By: honigkuchen

strange woolly cocoons

Species interactions

No interactions present.


Martin Harvey's picture

Bee Moth

The Bee Moth has larvae which build coccons like this - they are incredibly tough structures, almost impossible to pull apart by hand. They usually take over the nest of a wasp or bee, so perhaps there was something else nesting in this wood first?

Entomologist and biological recorder

honigkuchen's picture

Bee moth

Dear Martin,

there was a bumble bee nest there before !!!!

Thank you so much ! that must be it then .

Any idea when they might hatch , would it be this spring ?

thanks again , this thing has puzzled me for ages - not rare, are they ? i would love that !

best wishes,


B Dister

RHoman's picture

Bee or Wax

Is it the Bee Moth or Wax Moth shown here? The white silken chambers seem to fit the description for Wax and from what I can see of the larva, that also seems to fit.

Robert Homan

Martin Harvey's picture

Bee or Wax

Robert, you're quite right that the descriptions of the larvae of these two species do seem rather similar, but as far as I'm aware Wax Moth is more usually found in bee hives, i.e. associated with honeybees, while Bee Moth is usually in bumblebee or wasp nests, so I think Bee Moth is more likely here, but I can't completely rule out Wax Moth as an alternative.

If Barbel can keep an eye on these and try and get a photo of any moths that emerge (probably in the next month or two) then we could get a more definitive answer! Bee Moth is a widespread species, so no great rarity value I'm afraid; if it does turn out to be Wax Moth that is a less common species.

Entomologist and biological recorder

Syrphus's picture

... and not mapped on NBNG in

... and not mapped on NBNG in the N of Scotland, where this is.



recording wildlife with The Recorder's Year on www.hbrg.org.uk/TRY.html.

RHoman's picture

Re: Bee or Wax

Thanks Martin

When I saw the subsequent mention of a bumblebee nest I did do a mental retraction!


Robert Homan