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The second one may be a Marsh Thistle
Chris Brooks - www.dragonfly-images.co.uk
My Flickr site - www.flickr.com/photos/ceb1298
Better to add the second as a separate sighting...iSpot doesn't really work for multiple sightings under one ID.
My Flickr photos...
Hi - I agree with Chris. Second one looks like Marsh Thistle. I've just found what I think are these two thistles growing alongside each other as well. Sharon
Lat/Lng: 56.0224, -3.774
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