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Observed: 5th July 2012 By: stoutcobstoutcob’s reputation in Plantsstoutcob’s reputation in Plantsstoutcob’s reputation in Plantsstoutcob’s reputation in Plants
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Description:

Up to six feet tall.

Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Common Valerian (Valeriana officinalis) interacts

Comments

Jonathan's picture

Note that the size of this

Note that the size of this plant is 6feet! It cannot be common Valerian.

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

ophrys's picture

Common Valerian

Plenty of Common Valerian growing through brambles in a local wood gets to over 6 ft tall, as does some growing in drainage ditches beside a local canal. I know, because some of it is too tall for me to photograph hoverflies on top of the flowers...way over my head! I'm not saying its definitely that shown, but it can grow that tall. Also bear in mind that estimations of size are often well out, in fact.

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Jonathan's picture

I see, well so far common

I see, well so far common valerian is winning, for what that is worth.

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

ophrys's picture

Location

It would help to know whether it was growing in the wild or in a garden, say. Closing in on the location given suggests it is countryside, but that may not be an accurate idea of where it was seen.

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David Trevan's picture

Verbena bonariensis

I grow lots of this in my garden and the image to my mind definitely has the "feel" of Verbena bonariensis. As I said in my original comment, we cannot see much of the foliage.

David J Trevan

Jonathan's picture

I grow it too and I agree!

I grow it too and I agree!

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

David Trevan's picture

Verbena bonariensis-again!

I note that this species is listed in Stace as an occasional garden escape.
In the horticultural world it is known as a "see through plant", as it makes an excellent display but you can still see through a mass planting of it!
Also while I can appreciate some stems growing through brambles, in this image they are all very tall so I'm not convinced that this is Common Valerian!

David J Trevan

Jonathan's picture

And it has been seen as an

And it has been seen as an escape on iSpot before.

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

martinjohnbishop's picture

This is Valeriana

because it has (three) stamens sticking out.
Verbena has four stamens included in the tube and not visible.

Jonathan's picture

Thanks, Martin.

Thanks, Martin.

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

lavateraguy's picture

With regards to size ...

... the sizes given in books, and generally encountered, aren't absolute limits. Stace says that Malva sylvestris reaches 1m, exceptionally 1.5m, but I've seen a plant at over 2.5m.

Jonathan's picture

Blimey! Must have been on a

Blimey! Must have been on a compost heap or something.

Jonathan
University of Edinburgh and Biodiversity Observatory (OU)

lavateraguy's picture

No ...

... in a hedgerow by a canal towpath. I collected seed, but the offspring weren't so big.