These are someone's eggs but whos? Please help me ID them.
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I wonder why you (we) should wait so long for agreements, when accurate evidence is available in most books and on the internet.
When 4 'star' spotters agree, like here, surely the courteous thing to do is check it out and agree (or even not).
iSpot should be educating those who specialise in other aspects of Nature. Surely 'they' should be hungry. I am.
I guess many kinds of people use iSpot in many different ways.... Few tend to react to marine invertebrate postings, but a few knowledgeable people do, which really helps to confirm or find IDs for the trickier ones.
Nick Upton, naturalist and photographer.
Would you not agree that this ID's a certainty? (ie no others with star-flowers over flat surfaces?
Well Chris, probably no, that is yes, I would not agree! (I am less than 4 weeks into Marine Biology).
I trawled ALL the others in iSpot yesterday and spent nearly an hour on the I'net. (because I am about to post one of my own)
This one looks, superficially, like all the others but it is a photograph.
Without the evidence to hand, it is ALWAYS going to be impossible to tell. You take a courteous 'plump' in many Spots, using your experience - I have to rely on half an hour research and a partially educated 'feel'.
Whilst I did agree here, like in many of the others, it has to be 'based on my experience'.
But my point still stands - why no agreements, why apparently no visits from well meaning Naturalist (no comments) and why should all three of you conclude the same. (your ID Note is very explicit)
And I felt a little sorry for 'Dizzyblonde' - where is she in all this?
I was 99% sure of the ID when I first made it, based on having known it as such for decades and during a former life researching/working at a University and even taught students on field courses that's what it was. I only put in a "likely to be this" level of confidence just in case there was something similar out there I was unaware of. I've also learnt that the taxonomy of so many groups has been updated recently and sometime get caught out when the "splitters" have created new divisions that I and basic marine websites are sometimes unaware of.
Chris, if you're asking why I haven't ticked "I agree" for your restating of my ID with higher confidence, I didn't see the need to as it's clear we agree on the ID, but can do if you want me to as I'm now sure it is the only possible ID as no others have been suggested. Maybe you can agree to mine as you clearly do by restating it! NB Most users on iSpot just add their agreement to my "Likely to be" postings without reposting the same name, which I found a bit confusing! Dizzyblonde's Star Ascidian ID after we'd both posted may have been her way of agreeing. Can't say.
FYI there is a new Seashore Guide just out - The RSPB Handbook of the Seashore - with useful photos and info for many common species. I partly mention it as 20 or so shots are mine!
Hi Nick,great to hear from you again & your book! I'll be looking out for it. As for the ID i'm perfectly happy with the status quo which I believe is the same as the status quo before; I just didn't see why, especially in view of the "accurate evidence available etc" , Dejay chose to agree to 1 & not both ID's.I take your point on "likely" postings which is now my practise (even then I rarely 'gazumped' & only with experienced spotters)
Oh Chris, I thought 'protocol' was the thing. It was Nick who 'broke' the ID first, so I gave him the credit.
One often gets this choice in iSpot and I consider the first 'correct' ID should be the one to 'vote' for or, if possible, give it to the original poster.
I hadn't realised, sorry, that was your point in asking; neither had I assumed that one could vote twice for the same ID.
Having read the whole discussion I have agreed all the ids of Botryllus schlosseri on this page. Because that is what it is. Vote early and vote often, I say.
Thanks Chris, all understood!
I hope you like the book if you see it. It's very good value on Amazon. It's not "mine" as the author is Marine Biologist Maya Plass who pops up on TV a fair bit, but a number of my images were sourced through a photo agency I supply. I knew publication was planned last summer, so stepped up my coastal photography to fill in some gaps! I hope you don't find any errors in it!
I was on the south coast yesterday (Lyme Regis) but didn't find much I've not photographed/ seen before, though I need to check a few seaweeds. Off to Crete tomorrow for a week's break/ some warm weather photography.
I've found v. little on the few occasions I've ventured out. Could mention Collin's complete guide to Brit Coastal Life in case you want yet another bk haven't heard of it, another good photo source.
for the tip. It looks good. Among other seashore guides and invertebrate books, I still have and still use my ancient Collins Pocket guide (Barrett and Yonge); good in its day and most of the drawings and info are good, but many of the names have changed and a lot of invasive species have arrived since then!
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