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Interesting, if you said pug in February to me, I'd say Double-striped Pug. However this is not that, as it wouldn't have the discal spot.
However, I suppose the warm weather can totally muck up flight times.
With such a worn specimen I think a conclusive ID would be hard to come by, but who knows...
Do you mean the white spots at the rear edge of the forewing- discal spots?
I cant find a pug species which has this mottled wing pattern AND those white dots?
I fancy Brindled Pug (Eupithecia abbreviata) but I'm not putting any money down....
this one jumped out a bit as a candidate, but as a few others did likewise, I couldnt decide and thought the best thing to do was get someone else to tell me what it was!
It made me think of both those species and Foxglove but I wasnt confident, certain things seemed wrong for all. Yes it has been very mild lately, 14 celcius through the week, it probably thought it was May.
The pics dont quite do it justice, cant find the charger for my prefered camera at present!
I had a look at Oak tree as I'd recorded it once before, but I couldnt choose it over several similar others, do you feel it could be it?
Yes, it would certainly be where I'd put my money (although not much money!) Markings are pretty identical to individuals I've seen. Time of year is pretty close. However these pugs are very tricky as you very well know. I'd be 80% sure on Oak-tree.
Thanks, thats quite confident considering the state of it, maybe I'll see what others on BGM think for confirmation, I had one very difficult Oak Tree pug IDed 2 or 3 years ago, it might even have been yourself who IDed it?
Thanks for this...
If only all moths were prime fresh specimens who knew what time of year they are supposed to fly! I would bow down to Douglas's greater knowledge and go with E dodoneata.... although E abbreviata does fly slightly earlier?? I like to go with the long shots...!
Oh, wouldn't it be nice if they followed the rules of being fresh!
Anyway, yes, you're quite right Brindled does fly earlier in my (limited!) experience. However Brindled doesn't quite look right to me althought they're very similar...
See what if any experts have any views...
If you compare the moth here:
to yours, I think everything matches up. One clear thing is the discal spot, I would expect a much thinner one for Brindled. It also has the black streaks, white line - with dot and dagger near the end of the wing tips.
Ive just looked at that link and I am inclined to agree with you, I see the dagger, the little white dots at the rear edge of the forewing and the significant black discal spot.
The barred marking of the front edge of the forewing matches up with mine also but that could be said for severasl other species, nevertheless, this is very like the one I found last night.
Pugs are a nightmare...
and worm pugs are even worse. Given that this is worn and, what ever the species, somewhat early, the only safe identification, without the specimen having been dissected, would seem to be "pug".
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