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Woodland Moth

Observed: 18th February 2012 By: snowdonsnowdon’s reputation in Invertebratessnowdon’s reputation in Invertebratessnowdon’s reputation in Invertebrates
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Description:

Very Grey in colour, no brown evident, clear kidney and oval

Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Lead-coloured Drab (Orthosia populeti) interacts

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Difficult

A difficult pair, this and Clouded Drab. Gut feeling is that this is a Clouded Drab, as the wing shape looks slightly pointed.

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Lead-coloured Drab

You can just the start of the antennae which are feathered, male Clouded Drab never has these. The original ID is correct, this is a male Lead-coloured Drab.

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Drab

You are right that there is some feathering at the start of the antennae, which I had missed, so I have removed my agreement with incerta. I would like to see the rest of the antennae to be sure, though, of populeti. It is not true to say that incerta has no feathering...it does have projections, but certainly slight in comparison.

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Fair enough, but that 'level

Fair enough, but that 'level of feathering' right at the start of the antennae wouldn't be right for incerta, in my opinion.

I would also add the markings are consistent with O. populeti. With the large stigma having slight white-outlining. The wing-tips are also relatively rounded I'd say. In fact I had a moth similar to this last night which is certainly populeti. I've just added it:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/252954

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populeti

Yes, I am sure you are right and I agree with your latest sighting, where the underside view shows the antennae nicely. I am a bit old school, I suppose...I like to see the whole thing to be certain!

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Liking to see the whole thing

Liking to see the whole thing to be certain is a good thing! At least then you can be absolutely sure and it allows you to notice all the small details, makes it a lot more interesting!

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