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Spruce?

Observed: 8th January 2012 By: MartincitoMartincito’s reputation in PlantsMartincito’s reputation in PlantsMartincito’s reputation in PlantsMartincito’s reputation in Plants
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Description:
Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Species with which Spruce (Picea) interacts

Comments

David Trevan's picture

Picea!

Certainly a Spruce,probably P. abies!

David J Trevan

David Jardine's picture

Bark colour

Note this tree does not have the warm orange bark of a Norway Spruce (P. abies) and therefore this species can be discounted.

Martincito's picture

Oh! I saw your comment just

Oh! I saw your comment just after adding the revised ID above! As far as pendulousness is concerned, there is a Pendula variety of Norway Spruce that is VERY pendulous... I'll have another look at your suggestion.

David Jardine's picture

Needles

Norway spruce has fairly dense needles, your photo shows open, sparse needles which is a characteristic of Brewer's spruce. This is a reasonably common ornamental in parks & gardens etc.

Martincito's picture

Thanks for your advice on

Thanks for your advice on this one, David. I agree that the tree seems to have too sparsely-needled branches to be P. abies. I've has a look at P. breweriana and also the Morinda Spruce, P. smithiana. It seems the needles may be the key to distinguishing between these... though I'd welcome any further suggestions of course. I'll try and get some needles next time I'm in the park, though you will see from the photo that they are some way up. In the meantime, I'll post a couple more pictures of the foliage.

Martincito's picture

I've finally got round to

I've finally got round to adding a couple of new photos of the needles, in case they help confirm an ID...

MrG's picture

Needles

The additional photos of the needles show that they are sharp-tipped which matches my suggestion of Morinda Spruce.

David Jardine's picture

Storm damage?

When I looked at the photos of this tree I didn't think it was a perfect specimen as it clearly has lost the middle of its crown - maybe in the 1987 huricane and again more recently? This going through my mind when I was considering Brewer's spruce - was it a damaged specimen grown in the wrong climate? Hence the lack of the normal curtains of hanging foliage

We'll await the update!

Whatever it is, it has been an interesting tree!

All the best

David

David Trevan's picture

Picea!

These conifer observation comments seem to run and run!
I agree that P.breweriana and P.smithiantha are possibilities, but the large specimens of P.breweriana I have seen mainly in botanical collections do have these "hanging curtains" of vertical foliage which are quite unmistakeable,and have been commented on above. Picea smithiantha grows to a much larger size than P. breweriana.

David J Trevan