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Lesser whitethroat?

Observed: 9th April 2005 By: miked
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Lesser whitethroat?
Lesser whitethroat?
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Species with which Common Chiffchaff (Phylloscopus collybita) interacts

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gb5636's picture

Lesser Whitethroat (Sylvia curruca)

The legs are darker than a Whitethroat.

ophrys's picture

Chiffchaff

I cannot believe that a bird expert is identifying this as a Lesser Whitethroat! Surely it is a Chiffchaff? It's clearly a Phylloscopus, and to be honest, clearly a Chiffchaff!

Or am I missing something?!

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pirayaguara's picture

Try looking at the right hand

Try looking at the right hand picture ophrys

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Right hand picture

I am! ;)

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miked's picture

Well I would not describe

Well I would not describe myself as a bird expert now but when the system started it needed people who knew a reasonable amount about the different groups to be badged as experts just to get things going before people with more expertise joined in. In the birds section there should be enough people with enough reputation to overrule my ID. This will be an interesting test case.
I was not trying to make it a test but had these images hanging around from ages ago and I was not sure of the ID, as you can see I had a question mark by my ID and put 'it might be this'

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Expertise

Nothing personal, Mike! What you say makes sense about needing people to get it up and running.

I am pretty sure this is a Chiffchaff, although no-one else seems to think so, so far! The bird lacks any of the grey tones I would expect on the head of a Lesser Whitethroat, has a supercilium I would not expect on a Lesser Whitethroat, and has no pale patch at all on the outer tail feather. the throat is not pure white, either, as in a Lesser Whitethroat. Also, the date would be early for a Lesser Whitethroat (though by no means impossible).

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Phylloscopus warbler

I agree that this is a Phylloscopus warbler and not a Sylvia Warbler, the mantle and primary covert colour have a greenish hue - I know of no Sylvia Warblers with this plumage. As we cannot clearly see the wing structure/formula it is difficult to be 100% certain that it is a Chiffchaff, but Ophrys may well be correct.

pirayaguara's picture

Some immature lesser

Some immature lesser whitethroats have white "spectaacles"

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Chiffchaff

David...It's not a Willow Warbler, because the plumage is too dull and lacks any yellow tone. The clear, pale eye ring would not be right for Willow either. On the same basis, it is not a Wood Warbler. It does not fit for anything but Chiffchaff, does it? What can be seen of the wing does suggest at a short primary projection.

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Spectacles

That is true about immature Lesser Whitethroats, although they do not have a complete, narrow eye ring as in this bird.

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