Shadow30's picture

Deleting observation

As a fairly new contributor, could someone please tell me:

If I delete an obs from My Spot, after receiving an acceptable identification, does it remain available to others please?

I find it rather wearing to have too many identified ones in the My Spot facility.

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Ray Turner's picture

Sorry

Quite simply you can’t; one of the points of iSpot is for your input to be available to the masses for in perpetuity, it is after all a reference site and as such needs peoples’ observations to compare against. It is possible to delete an observation prior to anybody agreeing with it though. (I’m assuming you are referring to your own observations here.)

Ray

Shadow30's picture

Deleting Observations

Thanks for response. In that case 'I have sinned'. and sincerely apologise. Won't do it any more.

John

Ray Turner's picture

Puzzled

I’m puzzled that you have! Are we talking about a slightly different thing perhaps? As far as I’m aware it is physically impossible to delete an entire observation once it has been actively interacted with by another user e.g. someone has agreed with it. Being able to delete it before this point is allowable though to cater for those ‘oh I didn’t mean to click that!’ moments.

Ray

Ray

Fenwickfield's picture

Not possible

It is not possible to remove your observation once on ispot even if nobody agree's on it or give's an id.The only thing I have seen being done and have reported this,is people changing the original photograph than was identified and putting something else on thus making the id wrong.I Must say I agree with Ray that is is a site for people to observe and learn about wildlife and maybe a bit more thought should me made before adding an ob if your not 100% you want it to be on ispot for a long time.

Fenwickfield

Shadow30's picture

Deletions

It was never my desire to remove obs from ISPOT at large. Simply from My Ispot.

John

miked's picture

I think you are talking about

I think you are talking about something completely different to the answers you have been getting!!
The My Spot page can take a bit of getting use to as it can show so many different things. If you click on the little arrow beside "results filter" you get a dropdown list, I tend to have the first 3 boxes ticked and leave the bottom two unticked. This gives me a listing of the observatons i am most intersted in.
in the listing of "observations that have been agreed by others" these slowly vanish by themselves - well I think each one is on there for a month or something, can't remember if they return if other people agree with them too but bascially the older ones slowly vanish so you don't have to worry about deleting them yourself!

Shadow30's picture

Deletions

Thanks for that Mike, but does they still disappear if I don't untick the filter boxes that you mention above?

John

miked's picture

probably best to wait and

probably best to wait and see, I think they do.

DavidHowdon's picture

Cannot delete?

Are you sure that it is not possible to delete an entry? If I click to edit my observation there is a big button labelled Delete which I've always assumed would delete the entry - does it not?

Fenwickfield's picture

Once on

I don't think you can once it had been put on ispot,I have seen people change the picture but not remove your observation completely I think only ispot can remove your ob if they class it as inappropriate.If you want to have a go at pressing the button please tell us what happen's

Fenwickfield

Ray Turner's picture

I stand ...

... corrected, I have just deleted one of my own observations from way back. This has changed somewhere along the line; it definitely was not possible when I first joined, I’m sure it was even written into the T&Cs.

Ray

Ray

Syrphus's picture

At least one of your posts

At least one of your posts has been deleted - one a couple of weeks ago of a seabird, to which I added an ID.

M.

TRY

recording wildlife with The Recorder's Year on www.hbrg.org.uk/TRY.html.

DavidHowdon's picture

I did delete one

a couple of weeks ago where I had uploaded the wrong photo for the text. Didn't think anyone had interacted with it by that point (although I suppose if you were IDing whilst I was in Edit-Delete mode that could have happened).

Syrphus's picture

I did wonder ...! M.

I did wonder ...!

M.

TRY

recording wildlife with The Recorder's Year on www.hbrg.org.uk/TRY.html.

Ray Turner's picture

I think ...

... your experience highlights the issue here. Once a posted observation has things added to it who has ownership? I would prefer if we said iSpot does and the observation cannot then be deleted from then on.

Ray

Ray

Martin Harvey's picture

Deletion of observations from iSpot

When you add an observation to iSpot the observation, and any photos that go with it, remain yours. The relevant section of the iSpot terms says:

"Your content and information remains yours, including your photos and the text you type. You are free to make the information available to others at any time if you want to.

"In legal terms, you are granting us a non-exclusive, transferable license to the material, and warranting that permission for this licence has been given by the copyright holder.

"If you no longer want us to use your content, you should delete it from the site. It will stop being available to other users immediately. (It will remain in the site backups for a reasonable period of time, but will not be available to other users.)"

The full terms are at:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/terms-of-use

As far as I am aware it has always been possible for iSpot users to delete their own observations, and as discussed above this is done by going to the observation, choosing the Edit tab, and scrolling down to the Delete button at the foot of the page. See our Help section on this:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/faq-editobservation

All observations are of potential interest to other users and may also provide wildlife records that the various recording schemes might wish to take note of, so we would encourage people not to delete their observations unless absolutely necessary. However, I think it would be going too far to forbid people from removing their own observations if they need to do so.

The other issue, of removing observations from the My Spot area, has I think been answered by Mike, but for extra info on the "Changes" section see:
http://www.ispot.org.uk/faq-changes

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Entomologist and biological recorder

Shadow30's picture

Deleting observation

Many thanks to you, and all others who have responded to my original question.

Is there a way in which I can mark any of my own observations, so that they do not appear when I open via My Ispot/Observations?
I would only wish to do this:

(a) When I am satisfied with the ids/comments received.

(b) When I feel that it is no longer likely that and id will be supplied, usually in my case, because of the quality of the relevant image(s).

Should this be possible, I would not have felt the need to pose the original query re-deletions.

I hope this is comprehensible!

John

Martin Harvey's picture

My Spot observations

The "Observations" section of My Spot contains all of your observations to date, and there isn't a way of flagging or filtering them at the moment, but we are working towards improved filter/search facilities for iSpot as a whole, which we hope users will find helpful. Probably still a few weeks to go before it will be available, but watch this space!

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Entomologist and biological recorder

Shadow30's picture

My Spot filters

Thanks Martin. I take it you'll post developments here on the forum.

John