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Unknown moth

Observed: 30th May 2008 By: oceanlis2000oceanlis2000’s reputation in Invertebratesoceanlis2000’s reputation in Invertebratesoceanlis2000’s reputation in Invertebrates
IMG 8936 (2)
Description:

Very small moth

Identifications
  • Tephritidae
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
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    Likely ID
    Herina frondescentiae (Ulidiidae)
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
    ID agreements (): 2 People
    • dshubble
      Leaf Beetle Recording SchemeSouthampton Natural History Society
      Invertebrates expert
    • Martin Harvey
      Berkshire Moth GroupFSC - Field Studies CouncilSoldierflies and Allies Recording SchemeBuckinghamshire Invertebrate Group
      Invertebrates expert
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Comments

RHoman's picture

Any more details?

Could you give anymore information? A rough idea of size and of what the moth is sitting on would be very helpful. There seems to be some sort of bubble at the top of the insect? A long shot suggestion would be Pyrausta nigrata, but I'm really am not sure about that.

Robert

Robert Homan

dshubble's picture

Unknown...

I can't come up with anything here either - it doesn't look right for P. nigrata or P. cingulata though they are both dark micromoths with pale bands. However, I can't suggest anything better. Definitely confused by what it's sat on - a dark plant structure or another invertebrate?

Dave

dshubble's picture

Tephritidae?

I was wondering about flies too, though I'm not aware of any tephritids with quite this wing pattern. There are a number of families of smallish flies with patterned wings - maybe one of the others?

oceanlis2000's picture

Unknown moth

Its on the head of a flower, it is very small and I can't get anything bigger with any resolution, sadly this is the only angle I have

dshubble's picture

Herina?

John's 2nd ID looks good - I'd got as far as 'probably Ulidiidae' at which point my knowledge of small Diptera was exhausted. The U and inverted U look like a good diagnostic feature but are foreshortened in the photo here. Compare with http://www.biolib.cz/en/taxonposition/id122373/ (although the site notes it is an 'approximate determination' - BioLib is an interesting comaprison with iSpot in some ways) and I'm pretty happy that John is right,

Dave