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Observed: 27th September 2011 By: lalows2lalows2’s reputation in Birdslalows2’s reputation in Birds
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Is it possible to get juvenile cormorants to subspecies level?

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Sub-species identification

Current thinking on the identification of carbo and sinensis Cormorants is that the angle made by the gape line and the rear edge of the gular pouch is the most reliable feature for use from photographs (if a photo showing the subject in profile can be taken).

If the angle is under 66 degrees carbo is the likely ID, if it is above 72 degrees then it is sinensis.
(There is overlap between 66-72 degrees).
The angle on the bird in your photo is about 90 degrees - which should make it sinensis.

See the pdf here:

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Thanks Roy - that was the paper I was trying to recall.



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DavidHowdon's picture

Sub-species ID

You can add the sub-species ID as a revision in iSpot if you want.