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Pimplinae

Observed: 23rd September 2011 By: wad25
S159 Neighbourhood Nature - course complete
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Ichneumon Wasp (2)
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Ichneumon Wasp (2) 1 2
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Description:

Flying insect, stout oviposter, rostrum, yellow bands around eyes, thin waist, black body, brown thorax, legs brown. An ichneumon I think.

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Comments

DavidNotton's picture

definitely not Ichneumon

does not belong to the genus Ichneumon or even the subfamilay Ichneumoninae, looks more like the subfamily Pimplinae to me. Ichneumon do not have such a prominent ovipositor in the female sex.

wad25's picture

Definitely not Ichneumon

Thanks for that insight.

I couldn't identify it down to subfamily so I used Ichneumon for Ichneumonidae I see now that that is unsafe. Should Ichneumon only be used to mean Ichneumoninae?

I'll change the title to Pimplinae.

DavidNotton's picture

Ichneumon/ichneumon

People use the name Ichneumon/ichneumon in different ways. It is the name of a genus of ichneumonid wasp, in which case it it usually italicised and should have a capital I, this is the technical usage. It is also used as the common name for the whole family, sometimes also the whole of the Ichneumonoidea (including Braconidae as well) as as 'Ichneumon' 'Ichneumon wasp' or 'Ichneumon fly' and then is not italicised and may be used with and without capitals. Naturally this causes some confusion, as most ichneumons (in the common sense) are not Ichneumons in the sense of the scientific genus name, as there are many other different genera. I think it's best not to use the name in the common sense to avoid confusion, or at least be sure it goes in the common name box in the iSPot identification. I hope that helps! A lot of the Ichneumonids on iSpot can only be identified to family or subfamily since the characters needed require microscopic identifcation from several angles.

wad25's picture

Ichneumon/ichneumon

Thanks again, these are certainly tricky creatures.