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Grey Tachnid fly

Observed: 8th November 2009 By: markstruttonmarkstrutton’s reputation in Invertebratesmarkstrutton’s reputation in Invertebrates
Grey Fly orange legs 03
Grey Fly orange legs 01
Grey Fly orange legs 02
Grey Fly orange legs 02 3
Grey Fly orange legs 02 3 4
Grey Fly orange legs 02 3 4 5

Grey fly, long orange legs, moderately bristly. Wings clear and colourless with orange bases. Size and shape of bluebottle. However 4th long wing vein does not seem to bend forward. Eyes curved, not polygonal. Face silver. Feeding on ivy flowers in sunny sheltered spot.

Species interactions

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dshubble's picture

Muscid genus

I agree it's a muscid, and on balance (e.g. the orange legs & activity during November) also that it's Phaonia (unlike the genera Helina & Mydaea, this would have a strong but hard-to-see bristle on the dorsal side of the hind tibia...). Can't identify it to species though.

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Dipterists Forum

I asked members of the Dipterists Forum to look at this one and Stephane Lebrun confirms it as the muscid Phaonia tuguriorum, see:

Thanks to Stephane for the ID.

Entomologist and biological recorder

oceanlis2000's picture

Hello What is the difference


What is the difference between the 2 species
"Martin, looks like you have already mastered the family. The only comment I would make is that the very rare P. scutellata is superficially very similar to tuguriorum, and it takes quite a lot of discipline to take a series of such a common species on the outside chance of finding the rare one"