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Thrush possibly

Observed: 7th December 2009 By: madasyernanmadasyernan’s reputation in Birdsmadasyernan’s reputation in Birdsmadasyernan’s reputation in Birds
Thrush
Description:

I think this may be a Mistle Thrush, but very unsure.

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lst55's picture

Thrush

I'm pretty sure it's a thrush and I'm leaning towards song rather than mistle as it seems very brown and relatively small... but hard to tell from this photo!

Lucy

OU Student

madasyernan's picture

sorry,

It was far away and hidden.
About the same size as a Blackbird.

I think you are right about it being a Song Thrush though.

Sam, Student.

dshubble's picture

Thrush

I agree - bBeing blackbird-sized would make it a song thrush and the overall feel of it from the photo is song rather than mistle.

Syrphus's picture

I am not sure I agree with

I am not sure I agree with your logic, dshubble.

Song Thrush (9") is 10% (1") smaller than a Blackbird. Mistle Thrush (10.5") is 5% (0.5") larger than a Blackbird. These differences are sufficiently small to be undetectable in the field when other obvious features that have not been mentioned are not evident (Mistle has white tail spots, a different flight action, white underwings, and almost always gives its churring call if it flies). If any of these were noted, it would immediately exclude Song T., though not necessarily Fieldfare (I think the pic does exclude that one).

The picture is not good enough for certain ID, in view of the statements about the size. Sometimes the only thing to do is stick at the genus, as in the original ID, and try to get a pic that does not have quite as many obstacles in the way of all the clinching characters!

For those who don't like inches, x by 2.5 for cm.

M.

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dshubble's picture

Thrushes

Ta for the info - not really taking a strictly logical approach here, just chatting/musing 'aloud' - hence the absence of a revised identification to species... I couldn't say which of the two it is, just that if I had to guess it'd be song thrush.

er2938's picture

More likely song thrush

I definetly share the sentiment it is more likely to be a song thrush. The characteristic spots seem to have a more yellowish/orange tinge to the breast, rather than white teardrop shaped spots.

Mistle thrushes also often appear in pairs which sometimes helps ID.

Given that the wing, underparts and the eye/supercilium are obscured, can we truly rule out redwing?

Erwyn

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Redwing

The ony reason I knew something different was in the tree was this bird call was different to the normal house sparrow. It was deeper and more 'gravley' (if that makes sense)But it stayed hidden. I shall be looking out for it over the next few days.

I was looking at pictures of redwings alongside the thrush.

Hopefully I will be able to post a clearer photograph

Sam, Student.