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Smooth newt or palmate?

Observed: 10th August 2010 By: WTSWW
The Wildlife Trust of South and West Wales
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Description:
Identifications
  •  
    Likely ID
    smooth/palmate newt (Triturus vulgaris/helveticus)
    Confidence: I'm as sure as I can be.
    ID agreements (): 5 People
    • BDeed
      Merseyside BioBankThe Wildlife Trust for Lancashire, Manchester and
      BDeed’s reputation in Amphibians and ReptilesBDeed’s reputation in Amphibians and ReptilesBDeed’s reputation in Amphibians and Reptiles
    • anonymous spotter
    • Martin Harvey
      Berkshire Moth GroupFSC - Field Studies CouncilSoldierflies and Allies Recording SchemeBuckinghamshire Invertebrate Group
      Martin Harvey’s reputation in Amphibians and ReptilesMartin Harvey’s reputation in Amphibians and Reptiles
    • corylus
      Isle of Wight Natural History & Archaeological Soc
      corylus’s reputation in Amphibians and Reptilescorylus’s reputation in Amphibians and Reptiles
    • Matt Smith
      Amateur Entomologists' SocietyBees, Wasps and Ants Recording SocietyDipterists ForumPeople's Trust for Endangered SpeciesTachinid Recording Scheme
      Amphibians and Reptiles expert
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Comments

BDeed's picture

Very colourful though! I'm

Very colourful though!

I'm also wondering if the ridge along the back is the remnant of the males (if it is even male!) crest of the Smooth newt as it looses it outside the breeding season.
It would be interesting to see an example of the change the males go through, assuming that the crest doesn't just drop off over night!

WTSWW's picture

extra photo

Cheers all - added the extra photo with my finger in it.. my index finger is 8cm long.. to give some perspective ;)

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Syrphus's picture

This looks like a young

This looks like a young animal, and completely impossible to be sure of from this view. For anything other than a breeding male we will need a shot of the belly and throat to separate the two small newts.

M.

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