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Great Tit (Perus major)

Observed: 17th November 2009 By: madasyernanmadasyernan’s reputation in Birdsmadasyernan’s reputation in Birdsmadasyernan’s reputation in Birds
Great Tit
Great Tit 1
Great Tit 1 2
Description:

Distinctive markings. Unsure as to male or female, but very fiesty at the bird table so possibly male.

Identifications
Species interactions

No interactions present.

Comments

AB25426 - abbey's picture

Female

Narrow chest stripe indicates female

Abbey Burn
OU Student BSc Natural Sciences

devlin's picture

lovely picture ,markings

lovely picture ,markings suggest a female.

Dave. Student FDa Conservation and Countryside Management.

tootsietim's picture

sexing great tits

Generally, the central black line will be thicker in male birds and extend back between the legs. The famales show a narrower line usually fading out before the legs.

the naturalist man's picture

Great tit

A female great tit. As tootsietim says the black breast line is the tell-tale feature, narrow and short in females and long and broard in males. See the following iSpot observation for a male.

http://www.ispot.org.uk/node/11079

Graham Banwell

Visit the iSpot Yorkshire forum for information on events, issues and news relating to 'God's own country'
http://www.ispot.org.uk/forum/8411

madasyernan's picture

Great Tit

It may seem like a silly question, but my books are not clear, is it the same with Blue Tits please?

Sam, Student.

AB25426 - abbey's picture

Blue tits

Not that I'm aware of. Female blue tits have paler yellow chest but I think thats the only difference between the sexes.

Abbey Burn
OU Student BSc Natural Sciences

the naturalist man's picture

Blue tits

No it is not the same with blue tits. Even in the hand it is impossible to tell males from females other than a slight size difference, though there is overlap.

Graham Banwell

Visit the iSpot Yorkshire forum for information on events, issues and news relating to 'God's own country'
http://www.ispot.org.uk/forum/8411

madasyernan's picture

Blue Tits

According to the book i am using (you probably guessed the title 'Bird',awaiting new books) It mentions that the Blue Tit yellow coloring is, because of 'environment changes' becoming paler (therefore harder to distinguish sex). I don't put to much stock in this book as it is very unclear in some descriptions. But is there some truth in this or should I just pop this book back on the shelf.

Sam, Student.

AB25426 - abbey's picture

Confidence in field guides

I wouldn't recommend putting any book back on the shelf, they're all useful in some respect so long as you treat them with caution when you're looking up something new. Most basic bird field guides seem good enough for identifying most species in breeding plumage. They're not always so good for winter plumage or sexing, except in cases where there is a distinct difference. Still a good starting point though and anything you get from them, someone on iSpot is likely to be able to confirm or refute.

I haven't heard of the blue tit yellow colouring becoming paler, but sure someone will know!

Abbey Burn
OU Student BSc Natural Sciences

lst55's picture

Fiesty

Surely fiesty would make you assume it's female?! ;-)

Lucy

OU Student

madasyernan's picture

Ha ha

My partner agrees with you about fiesty females. Though he said it very quietly and from another room !!!!

Sam, Student.